Sep 20, 1995 The Bosman case (AP, Max Attar Feingold, Marc Andries, "pad") Jan 9, 1996 Thoughts on Bosman - possible solutions (Andrew Wayne) Feb 16, 1996 Some thoughts about the Bosman case (Ariel Mazzarelli, Andrew Wayne) Nov 26, 1996 Serie A: Big guys, where are you? (Massa Sugano) ============================== Subject: The Bosman case (long) From: maf6@cornell.edu (Max Attar Feingold) Date: Sep 20, 1995 The follwing article was lifted from clari.sports.misc. Whatever copyright stuff I just infringed, well, they'll get over it: "LUXEMBOURG (AP) -- A lone soccer rebel moved a big step closer Wednesday to force the powers behind Europe's favorite sport into abolishing key rules that shackled players to their clubs and imposed limits on foreign players. The advocate general of the European Union's highest court said the tradition of demanding transfers fees after a player's contract has expired violates European Union law. The EU treaty ``prohibits a football club from being able to demand or receive payment of a sum of money when one of its players whose contract has expired is engaged by another club,'' Carl Otto Lenz, Advocate-General of the European Court of Justice, said. He was just as brutal in dismissing another cornerstone of the game in Europe -- the limits on foreign players, originally set up to keep the rich clubs from monopolizing all the best talent. ``The rules on foreign players are clearly discrimination by reason of nationality,'' Lenz wrote in his conclusions. If Lenz's opinion is backed by the full European Court of Justice in a final ruling expected later this year, it would create a lucrative free-agent market of top players who could shop around for the best deal, whatever the former club wants. It also could create rich, hugely successful teams that buy up as much foreign talent as possible and face no more restrictions to put them on the team. The Court of Justice normally follows the opinion of the advocate general. Barbara Nolan, a spokeswoman for the EU executive Commission in Brussels, declined to comment on the case. ``We'll await the final judgment of the court,'' she said. Lenz's opinion was a boost for Jean-Marc Bosman, a Belgian player who was denied a move to the French club Dunkirk from FC Liege, Belgium, in 1990 after his contract expired. It reduced him to a choice between staying for a minimum wage of barely $1,000 a month gross or suspension. He sued instead. ``I feel great. It was all we could hope for,'' Bosman said Wednesday. The 31-year-old is seeking $1 million in damages because his career nosedived after his transfer fell through. He also has to pay for his five-year legal challenge. ``But let's wait. It's not the final judgment yet,'' Bosman said. The opinion of the advocate general goes to the heart of the way UEFA, Europe's ruling soccer body, manages its business and a final ruling backing Bosman would send shockwaves through the sport. The chief executive of England's Professional Football Association, Gordon Taylor, warned of ``major upheaval'' if Bosman wins his case. It would rob clubs of income and assets from transfers while making players more independent in contract negotiations. Lenz quoted figures showing English clubs made a profit of $14.6 million in the 1992-93 season on transfer fees, while the transfer market totaled $79 million. He said Italian clubs spent $65 million on transfer fees for this season alone. Some of the money not spent between clubs would now go straight to the players, observers say. ``It's only right that the players have the same opportunities and rights as other professions,'' Taylor said. But UEFA has always said small clubs would suffer, lacking the income of selling raw talent to rich clubs. Lenz said the wealth should be distributed in other ways, much like the UEFA Champions League system, which spreads profits around. Lenz also went against UEFA's ``three-plus-two'' rule, which allows clubs to field three foreigners and two other non-nationals who have been playing in the country for several years. That limit is the result of a gentleman's agreement between UEFA and the EU Commission. The latter has been careful not to crack its free trade whip over UEFA's head so as not to anger millions of European soccer fans. Ending the ``three-plus-two'' rule would shake up European clubs competitions, UEFA argues and enable rich clubs to buy all the best players." Good article, but there's a misconception involved, which I believe comes from the American attitude towards sports. UEFA appears in this article as the one true defender of unified soccer. However, and this is very important, UEFA is not European soccer. UEFA is a profit-oriented organization which organizes international competitions and establishes rules that its members obey under threat of expulsion. That's all. If UEFA disappeared, all the national leagues would continue just as usual, and so would the different EC's: the leagues would get together and that would be that. In sum: UEFA, like FIFA, are a bunch of greedy bastards who don't give a damn about soccer. In the Bosman case, there are two very different corollaries and two different problems. One, the possible abolishment transfer fee system, is not a serious problem. In Spain, for example, there are no such things as transfer fees. If a player's contract ends, then he is free. Players can also be bought by one team breaking a player's contract with another team, which can be done by an amount of money stiplated in the contract itself. As a result of these policies, there has been no loss of competitive balance in Spanish soccer. Rather, it has had an opposite effect. The amounts necessary for breaking a contract are becoming so high that transfers between Spanish teams are growing rarer and rarer. In any case, the transfer fee system is mostly used in international transfers; UEFA keeps a part of the money and that way it is beneficial to them. This is why they are fightng to keep the rule in place. And two, the foreigners rule. It may be discriminatory, but I think it is vital for it to be maintained, so the big European teams don't get too powerful for their own good. I think it would hurt soccer to abolish this rule. Here I am with UEFA. I don't see what Bosman's case has to do with the 3+2 rule. Maybe somebody can explain this to me. ---------------------------------------------- From: andries@wi.leidenuniv.nl (Marc Andries) Subject: Re: The Bosman case (long) Date: Sep 22, 1995 And there's one other thing I don't get on this matter. I can understand that a European court has its say over the number of foreigners a club (or any other enterprise) is allowed to *employ* (which, as far as I know, is not limited by UEFA). But how on earth can a court decide on the number of foreigners a club is allowed to *field* during a game ?! Where would this end then ? Next we'll have courts judging the size of goals, the number of studs on a shoe, and the color of the corner flag! Besides this legal aspect of the matter, I indeed believe that abolishing the foreigners rule would be a Bad Thing (TM). For instance, would Italian soccer fans still be interested in an AC Milan vs. Inter Milan derby, if (just for example's sake) AC Milan would field 11 Germans versus Inter fielding 11 Dutch players ? --------------------------- From: pad@padav.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: The Bosman case (long) Date: Sep 24, 1995 Come on Marc, are you just trying to be deliberately naive or what! Anyone with an ounce of common sense (and believe it or not, this includes judges and lawyers) can see that the number of "foreign" players allowed on a club team sheet has more than a little influence on the number of "foreign" players that club is going to employ. Your use of the word "foreigners" belies your misunderstanding of the situation. As far as the European court is concerned, according to the Treaty of Rome and subsequent reinforcing Treaties (ie Maastricht), all persons within the EU are allowed to have free access withour let or hinderance, direct or indirect, to the relevant job marketplace, in this instance, professional football clubs. Therefore Dennis Bergkamp is not a "foreign" player. He was born in Amsterdam, he used to work in Milan and now he works in London. Paul Ince is not a "foreign" player. He was born in London, he used to work in Manchester and now he works in Milan. It is as simple as that. Of course the judgement has ramifications for football but football cannot divorce itself from the rest of the commercial environment. In fact, in recent times it has been trying rather hard to become more involved. The judgement will only affect EU nationals. So Dejan Savicevic, Andrei Kanchelskis etc. etc. are not included in the judgement and can still be considered as "foreign" players. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. ---------------------------------------------- From: andries@wi.leidenuniv.nl (Marc Andries) Subject: Re: The Bosman case (long) Date: Sep 28, 1995 'My' use of the term "foreigner" belies nothing at all, since I use it in the way suggested by the dictionary: 'person from another country', and as far as I know, the EU is not yet considered a country... And if you had carefully read my article (which I doubt you did), you would have noticed that I explicitely do not question the EU's competence regarding the access of players to "the relevant job marketplace", but regarding the access of players to the soccer-pitch during the game! And yes, I do have enough "common sense" to realize that these two matters "influence" one another, but the issue of this thread is 'legal court decisions', and not 'what might possibly be the consequence of a court decision in real life'. So my statement still stands that one should be careful in applying `ordinary' laws to the rules of a game. Or do you also believe that the fact that in most types of sport, a distinction is made between men and women is a violation of Human Rights, and hence should be forbidden ? --------------------------- From: pad@padav.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: The Bosman case (long) Date: Sep 30, 1995 Firstly, I did read the article posted very carefully. Secondly, you may be correct in your literal definition of a country but unfortunately this is where the courts decision making process parts company with the thread of your argument. The EU is viewed in precisely that manner by the court, ie. as one homogeneous body, when it comes to interpretation of the legal rules established through the various treaties enacted by its member states.Therefore the court took the view that the gentlemans agreement between UEFA and the European Commision was not valid. Therefore I have to repeat that as far as the court is concerned a player born in the EU is not a foreigner. Thirdly your contention that there is a difference between players under contract and players allowed on the team sheet obviously didn't hold water either. The court must therefore take the view that there is a direct linkage between these two factors. Lastly I apologise for the stupid remark at the preface of my original reply. I must be becoming adicted to the act of flaming. I am only informing you of how I think the court reached its verdict. Remember that you are looking at soccer from the perspective of a sports fan, the courts decision making process is based entirely on viewing soccer as a commercial activity. I have to conclude that this is the root cause of divided opinion about the efficacy of the courts decision. ======================================= From: awayne@ps.ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Wayne) Subject: Thoughts on Bosman - possible solutions. Date: Jan 9, 1996 Well, this is a bit late, I know. But as the whole thing has been reopened recently by UEFA and the English FA, I would like to put forward a couple of solutions. Firstly, the easy one: On the matter of freedom of movement on the expiry of a contract (but only between teams in different European Union states), wouldn't it be possible to have players on one-year rolling contracts, such as are used in "big-business". This would be a one-year contract which is being permanently renewed until one side decides to end it. This would provide many benefits - such as a little security for the young player just leaving the youth scheme, but no long term guarantee. If the club thinks he isn't good enough, he will have a year in which to change professions; this is much better for clubs than the "very-long-contract" for young players suggested by other people. I can think of a couple of minor problems, but it seems to be much better than any of the other alternatives I've seen suggested. The second point is about the foreigner limitations in club football: As far as I know, the law is about restriction on earning money in any country of the European Union. On the grounds that clubs can employ as many foreigners as they want to, but only play 3 of them at any one time, does this not mean that EU restraint of trade laws are not being breached? I'm probably wrong on this point, as somebody else must have put this argument forward. It just seems wrong. ======================================== From: awayne@ps.ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Wayne) Subject: Re: Some thoughts about the Bosman case Date: Feb 16, 1996 Ariel Mazzarelli wrote: >So here we are kicking this thing around, and it seemed to me that some things >ought to be said. >2.We do NOT want to minimize the number of significant futbol teams (except >of course for the fact that Racing de Avellaneda is the greatest team in >the history of futbol). Correct. The more professional teams that exist, the better. It provides a much larger base, with a significantly enlarged possibilty of finding a great player. We don't even want to lose Swindon (who aren't really significant to anyone except Reading and Oxford fans). >3.We want healthy competition, and in particular, we want to retain the >possibility that a local club will germinate a futbol genius that will take >his club to the top. We do NOT want either the future of our teams nor the >competitiveness of our leagues to depend on the whims of >temporarily-interested potentates. Nor do we want the success of a team to depend solely on which has the richest benefactor. This is already the case the some extent (Silvio Berlusconi, Agnelli family, John Hall and Jack Walker, to give four examples), but it's likely to get worse after Bosman. >4.Executives are pigs and automatically not trusted. The exceptions shall have >to demonstrate, by their actions, that they are exceptions. True! An executive will most likely become an executive through dodgy deals, conniving and exploitation. >6.If anyone can be trusted with the fate of the game, it is the players; I'd >say the fans (like us) instead, but we're not talented enough. Hence, futbol >executives and referees should be recruited from the ranks of former players >(sorry MLS). Pele, Maradona, Platini, Beckenbauer, Francescoli, and Lineker >would make a good basis. Whilst I agree, in principal, I think you could have picked a more appropriate Argentinian (you have two World Cup winning teams to choose from) than one of the two who have been shown to flout rules and regulations. I'm not sure that somebody who has been banned for taking performance enhancing drugs is an ideal member of any executive. >7.Fuck TV. In a few years, the monopoly over information distribution will >cease to be, and so will the mindset that goes with it. No more games at high >noon in 35 degree, 90% humidity weather, no more pay-per-view, no more >blackouts, no more INANE commentary. The main problem with TV revenues in this country is that the direct cash from TV is what concerns the clubs. They fail to realise that if there is a restricted, pay-per-view audience on TV, and it is too expensive to get into the grounds, then new fans won't come in to the game. The lack of a large mass audience will also cut sponsorship and advertising revenue. If the game gets mass exposure, then more fans will be encouraged to go to matches (particularly if it is affordable), advertising revenue will be higher, and even the basic greed of clubs will be sated. >Futbol is a wonderful game. Let's take it back. Basically: Well put Ariel. =================================================================== Subject: The present situation in Serie A: Big guys, where are you? From: Massa SuganoDate: Nov 26, 1996 After Sunday's games, we find Vicenza in first place with 20 points, with Bologna and Inter lying second at 19 points. Juventus is at 16 but has an easy home match against Udinese to catch up due to the Intercontinental Cup at Tokyo. Napoli and Sampdoria join Juve at 16, while Milan lies a point further back at 15 together with Perugia and Roma. As to Fiorentina, Parma, and Lazio, they have been left behind in the wrong half of the table. What has perhaps been the most striking is the incredible surge of the so-called provincial teams at the expense of the more fancied formations like Parma and Lazio. In fact, at the beginning of the season, experts and fans alike had been pronouncing a WIDENING of the gap between the Big Seven (Juve, Milan, Inter, Parma, Fiorentina, Lazio, Roma) and the rest. Because of the Bosman effect, they (and I) said. Well, the gap is in fact wide, but with the provincial teams on TOP! Why did it happen? Three theories are prominent. First, the Big Seven changed too much. This definitely applies to Parma, which lost all resembelnce of harmony as old-timers such as Minotti, Zola, and of course, Scala, were brashly pushed aside. 28 years-old president Stefano Tanzi (THE BRAT!), unlike his father Calisto, has this bad knack of throwing Parmalat money on exactly the wrong players. This has been an ongoing problem for last season, when Parma got Hristo Stoichkov while unloading Tomas Brolin, the only Parma player with any resemblence of presence in its midfield. This year, they spent almost $20 million for Chiesa, $7 million for Thuram, $5 million for Crespo, and many more for Ze Maria, Amaral, Bravo, Strada, etc. Chiesa is good but not worth 80% of Ronaldo. Thuram and Ze Maria, so far, has been the only ones producing. The biggest problems for Parma, though, are the inexistence of world-class midfielders and the CRAPPINESS of coach Carlo Ancelotti. Suffice to say that he used to be Sacchi's vice for the Azzuri. Roma sufferd the impact with Carlos Bianchi, although I personally approve of his tactics. Milan discovered themselves without Cappello, and together with the absence of Baresi, found themselves with a sub-par defense. It also exposed to the world that Paolo Maldini and Billy Costacurta had been two of the world's most overrated players. Secondly, the provincials got the good coaches. Guidolin, Galeone, Eriksson, and Ulivieri seem to be more consistent than Tabarez, Bianchi, and Ancelotti. Zeman is TOO consistent. I suggest he take a Game Theory course at the Universita' di Roma. Thirdly, the players might sometimes be cheaper but better. Like, Andy Cole versus Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Like, Stan Collymore. Remember, Gigi Lentini? Did I mention Cole? Vicenza bought Di Carlo, Lopez, D'Ignazio, and Viviani when they were in Serie C1. All four of them are still starters for the team. Then they bought Ambrosetti, Sartor, and Otero for less than $2 million each. Today, I hear Inter offered $5 million for Sartor (offer refused), Ambrosetti is set for a national-team debut, and Otero, well, is worth something like over $10 million. Most importantly, unlike some teams, Vicenza sells these young stars only a little at a time. They wait until they get good successors. That's why they sold only Bjorklund, and not Otero, at the end of last season. Bologna, on the other hand, used the flip-side of the Bosman ruling to get off-loaded Big Seven players for free. They obtained Marocchi, Shalimov, and Seno this way. Of course, without Kennet Andersson, Bologna wouldn't be much. So, what about the prospect? I still see the big names favored for the title, Juve and Inter foremost. Realistically, Bologna is not a title contender, and Perugia would be extremely lucky if they made it to the UEFA Cup. Samp and Napoli (the middle clubs) have no high ambitions either. Parma and Lazio are no-hopers, and in the opinion of many astute fans, has been so since the beginning of the season. But keep watching out for Vicenza, after all they're the only team to have beaten the world champions this season. The level of their players are inferior to only a few teams in Italy. As for the scudetto, 35% Juve, 30% Inter, 20% Milan, 10% Vicenza, 3% Fiorentina, 1% Roma, 1% all others, maybe. [final Serie A standings: 1) Juventus 65, 2) Parma 63, 3) Inter 59, 4) Lazio 55, 5) Udinese 54, 6) Sampdoria 53, 7) Bologna 49, 8) Vicenza 47, 9) Fiorentina 45, 10) Atalanta 44, 11) Milan 43, 12) Roma 41, 13) Napoli 41, 14) Piacenza 37 relegated: 15) Cagliari 37, 16) Perugia 37, 17) Verona 27, 18) Reggiana 19 i.e. the top four spots went to "Big Seven" clubs]